“Sygin says she’s tried to tell me, but I can’t seem to hear when she speaks of it.”
*Thinks of Loki and Sygin’s fate..*
This. Is. So. SAD.
If anyone needs me, I’m in the dark corner crying myself to sleep while hugging my imaginary Jormy-plushie.
T_T
Actually, I think Loki is better off not knowing what´s going to happen. If he did, do you think he would ever be able to just enjoy playing with his boys again, knowing their eventual fate? Could he even live with himself, knowing that his boys´ fate is his own fault?
To me there’s just SO MUCH sadness any way I look at It, no matter what, exactly because I know what’s going to happen (And Sygin tooT_T). It’s like when you watch an horror movie and you start to shout: “NOOOO! DON’T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!” at the TV while closing your eyes… well that’s what I do and why I don’t watch horror. Of course, I agree that if Loki knew, it would be unbearebly (can I say that?*_*) sad for Loki as well. Hell, I’d go mad if I knew such a thing, I’ll try to kill myself…°-° Well, I’m back to my dark corner with the little hope that events will turn somehow differently in this comic, Just like in Valhalla…. What can I say? Sad stories are my weak spot. After all, I had nightmares after reading all Andersen’s “fables”…
As a kid, I read the Valhall series (a Danish comic book about the norse myths). I always wondered how they would tackle Ragnarok, and in the end they did–Loki’s punishment was just a bad dream (sounds cheesy, I know, but they actually did it very well–that Loki was a bit of a slimeball but not really evil, and the wife and kids were just part of the nightmare, as he had never married). Balder’s death did happen, though.
Knowing what must happen does lend this scene with Coal and Loke quite a bit of pathos.
I read those until the number #11, then I didn’t found the numbers from 12 to 16 in English, and I’m still waiting for them to appear…T_T I found the last numbers on the web but only in Danish, so.. I sort of.. ehm… looked at the pictures-_-‘ I remember the little girl (Rovska? Is it right?) had a great part in that.. if you remeber can you explain to me what she did exactly? Thanks:)
Yeah, if you know the myths, some of the scenes have an extra layer to them. But I hope if you DON’T know the myths, you can still understand and enjoy the comic.
I don’t quite remember the whole ending, but Roskva becomes a volve, or seeress, and sees everything that is about to happen/is happening. In the end, it looks like all the gods but Loki die, and all the humans survive (unlike the myths), but Loki is put off by the whole thing when he realized that he has to share the world with Christianity, and that he actually misses the other gods. Then Roskva has a vision that all the gods did survive, and Thor comes and chases Loki back home. Very unlike the myths, I guess, but it was a kid’s story. 🙂
Aaaw…^_^ Thanks! I can almost figure it out the scene… It looks like a beautiful story to me, even if I’m waaay beyond kid’s age:D I hope one day I’ll be able to read the comics properly. They were funny and I loved how norse gods were portrayed, and how they pin-pointed themes that are usually difficult to explain to kids in an accessible way. Peace:)
From a more meta-standpoint, I think it makes sense for Loki not to be able to know his own fate. He is a trickster, an agent of chaos – a wild card, so to speak. He can fulfill this role, for good or for bad, best if he does not know in advance what he will achieve with his deeds; that´ll be what makes it so much fun for him!
And beyond that, if there is anyone at all in Norse mythology who might possibly be able to cheat fate, it is Loki the trickster god. Maybe not being able to know his own fate somehow puts him outside fate to a degree – perhaps far enough that his nature as a trickster god enables him to actually change that fate.
Look at Greek mythology: anyone there who ever knew their future, god or mortl, ended up making it happen anyway, no matter what they did to avoid it – often enough BECAUSE OF what they did to avoid it. If it is possible at all to change fate, then only if you do not know what the “status quo” fate is.
The more I think about it, the more certain I am that Odin made Coal seek out Loki´s assistance so that Loki´s presence might enable Coal and his companions to somehow effect some sort of change in the future Odin has seen – let the dice roll as they may, and hope they come up better than what he´s seen. Because, if what I wrote about is correct, then certainly Odin knows about it and uses it in his efforts to prevent Ragnarok.
Eh, I try to reply here ’cause I can’t on the previous comment..
To me there’s just SO MUCH sadness any way I look at It, no matter what, exactly because I know what’s going to happen (And Sygin tooT_T). It’s like when you watch an horror movie and you start to shout: “NOOOO! DON’T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!” at the TV while closing your eyes… well that’s what I do and why I don’t watch horror. Of course, I agree that if Loki knew, it would be unbearebly (can I say that?*_*) sad for Loki as well. Hell, I’d go mad if I knew such a thing, I’ll try to kill myself…°-° Well, I’m back to my dark corner with the little hope that events will turn somehow differently in this comic, Just like in Valhalla…. What can I say? Sad stories are my weak spot. After all, I had nightmares after reading all Andersen’s “fables”…
What happens at ranganrok? I recall Loki becomes a kid and joins with Thor to defeat the Serpent in Midgard before it reaches Asgard… oh, wait; that’s another comic.
Isn’t that technically a volva?
I read that with a ‘u’…
It’s entirely possible that my brain is a dirty, dirty place…
That’s another reason I didn’t use it. 😀
It is! But “Seeress” is easier to remember and understand right off the bat.
“Sygin says she’s tried to tell me, but I can’t seem to hear when she speaks of it.”
*Thinks of Loki and Sygin’s fate..*
This. Is. So. SAD.
If anyone needs me, I’m in the dark corner crying myself to sleep while hugging my imaginary Jormy-plushie.
T_T
Good plan! 😀
Actually, I think Loki is better off not knowing what´s going to happen. If he did, do you think he would ever be able to just enjoy playing with his boys again, knowing their eventual fate? Could he even live with himself, knowing that his boys´ fate is his own fault?
To me there’s just SO MUCH sadness any way I look at It, no matter what, exactly because I know what’s going to happen (And Sygin tooT_T). It’s like when you watch an horror movie and you start to shout: “NOOOO! DON’T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!” at the TV while closing your eyes… well that’s what I do and why I don’t watch horror. Of course, I agree that if Loki knew, it would be unbearebly (can I say that?*_*) sad for Loki as well. Hell, I’d go mad if I knew such a thing, I’ll try to kill myself…°-° Well, I’m back to my dark corner with the little hope that events will turn somehow differently in this comic, Just like in Valhalla…. What can I say? Sad stories are my weak spot. After all, I had nightmares after reading all Andersen’s “fables”…
It’s got to be even worse for Sygin, since she knows what’s going to happen to her sons as well.
I’m guessing that the reason she doesn’t write a note instead is that it’d probably be unreadable to Loki.
Also, the faces Loki and Coal make in the last two panels are awesome and rather adorable.
Copy that! Especially Loki’s face when he talks about Sygin. Precious.
Thank you! Also yes that likely wouldn’t work either, hahaha.
As a kid, I read the Valhall series (a Danish comic book about the norse myths). I always wondered how they would tackle Ragnarok, and in the end they did–Loki’s punishment was just a bad dream (sounds cheesy, I know, but they actually did it very well–that Loki was a bit of a slimeball but not really evil, and the wife and kids were just part of the nightmare, as he had never married). Balder’s death did happen, though.
Knowing what must happen does lend this scene with Coal and Loke quite a bit of pathos.
I read those until the number #11, then I didn’t found the numbers from 12 to 16 in English, and I’m still waiting for them to appear…T_T I found the last numbers on the web but only in Danish, so.. I sort of.. ehm… looked at the pictures-_-‘ I remember the little girl (Rovska? Is it right?) had a great part in that.. if you remeber can you explain to me what she did exactly? Thanks:)
I’m surprised you found any, according to the offical website there’s never been an English translation.
https://h33t.unblocked.pw/torrent/4070753/valhalla-1-11-jj-data9724-dcp-dcp-d
🙂
Yeah, if you know the myths, some of the scenes have an extra layer to them. But I hope if you DON’T know the myths, you can still understand and enjoy the comic.
I don’t quite remember the whole ending, but Roskva becomes a volve, or seeress, and sees everything that is about to happen/is happening. In the end, it looks like all the gods but Loki die, and all the humans survive (unlike the myths), but Loki is put off by the whole thing when he realized that he has to share the world with Christianity, and that he actually misses the other gods. Then Roskva has a vision that all the gods did survive, and Thor comes and chases Loki back home. Very unlike the myths, I guess, but it was a kid’s story. 🙂
Aaaw…^_^ Thanks! I can almost figure it out the scene… It looks like a beautiful story to me, even if I’m waaay beyond kid’s age:D I hope one day I’ll be able to read the comics properly. They were funny and I loved how norse gods were portrayed, and how they pin-pointed themes that are usually difficult to explain to kids in an accessible way. Peace:)
Hmmm, I wonder whether Coal’s journey is related to Odin’s efforts to alter fate.
Odin is a wily wabbit.
From a more meta-standpoint, I think it makes sense for Loki not to be able to know his own fate. He is a trickster, an agent of chaos – a wild card, so to speak. He can fulfill this role, for good or for bad, best if he does not know in advance what he will achieve with his deeds; that´ll be what makes it so much fun for him!
And beyond that, if there is anyone at all in Norse mythology who might possibly be able to cheat fate, it is Loki the trickster god. Maybe not being able to know his own fate somehow puts him outside fate to a degree – perhaps far enough that his nature as a trickster god enables him to actually change that fate.
Look at Greek mythology: anyone there who ever knew their future, god or mortl, ended up making it happen anyway, no matter what they did to avoid it – often enough BECAUSE OF what they did to avoid it. If it is possible at all to change fate, then only if you do not know what the “status quo” fate is.
The more I think about it, the more certain I am that Odin made Coal seek out Loki´s assistance so that Loki´s presence might enable Coal and his companions to somehow effect some sort of change in the future Odin has seen – let the dice roll as they may, and hope they come up better than what he´s seen. Because, if what I wrote about is correct, then certainly Odin knows about it and uses it in his efforts to prevent Ragnarok.
Eh, I try to reply here ’cause I can’t on the previous comment..
To me there’s just SO MUCH sadness any way I look at It, no matter what, exactly because I know what’s going to happen (And Sygin tooT_T). It’s like when you watch an horror movie and you start to shout: “NOOOO! DON’T OPEN THAT DOOR!!!” at the TV while closing your eyes… well that’s what I do and why I don’t watch horror. Of course, I agree that if Loki knew, it would be unbearebly (can I say that?*_*) sad for Loki as well. Hell, I’d go mad if I knew such a thing, I’ll try to kill myself…°-° Well, I’m back to my dark corner with the little hope that events will turn somehow differently in this comic, Just like in Valhalla…. What can I say? Sad stories are my weak spot. After all, I had nightmares after reading all Andersen’s “fables”…
What happens at ranganrok? I recall Loki becomes a kid and joins with Thor to defeat the Serpent in Midgard before it reaches Asgard… oh, wait; that’s another comic.
Lots of stuff happens!