Chapter 10 | Page 14
on October 2, 2014
at 12:01 am
Thistil Mistil Kistil
by Sarah Schanze
Velkommen!
Thistil Mistil Kistil is a comic about vikings, Norse gods, and their adventures together (or against each other). Updates are on Tyr’s Day and Thor’s Day.
And cue long religious debate. In which Christianity will get its butt whooped. multiple times, I’d wager.
Well I hope not, because some of us here are religious! 😛 It wouldn’t make me like the comic any less, though.
True… but in my personal opinion, Christianity deserves a good butt-whooping for what they did to the Norse belief system.
Here here!
Still peeved at Clash of the Gods for what THAT show did to Thor and Hades…
Well, the Norse weren’t exactly good to us other europeans, either.
Haha, don’t worry, I’m not that much of a bear-poker.
Smart move.
guessing Loki might curtail this convo, as discussing religion is probably not going to get anybody into anybody’s good graces in this trio/quartet… 😛
Loki is probably too interested in watching it play out.
Thiiis…. is probably true.
Coal I think you’re already shattering that apology… Now would be a good time to shush up! o.o
Shattering his apology? Not so much. I didn’t take to the Christian stories either. The many flavors of Pagan stories? Those I took to. Neither way is right or wrong in themselves – just right or wrong for us as individuals.
For Coal, he grew up taking to the path that was right for him.
I hear that! Christianity bores me. And frankly, their God is a bit of a jerkwad. I mean, I get you’re not supposed to touch the Ark, but who the HELHIEM blasts someone just because they were trying to keep it from hitting the ground?! He also hardened a pharaoh’s heart JUST so he would have an excuse to rip apart the Egyptian pantheon!
“he grew up taking to the path that was right for him.”
Like in growing to like being most likely completly illiterate, and a jerk for others? I don’t think that kind of path would even qualify as “acceptable”, but well.
Haha, he’s just answering their questions!
Eeee Coal you’re treading dangerous ground here clearly, even if you’re just being honest. Granted I guess Vikings which followed the old religion would be less defensive then christians generally so he wouldn’t consider it an issue or think about how it may sound. It’s just generally what ‘was’ with them, with no need to defend it or convince people of its ‘Truth’ after all. I mean there weren’t any viking mythos apologists I’m betting. Or people dying as persecuted believers for their faith.
Christians depended and depend on preaching and convincing people it’s true (to ‘save’ them- making it important to do so) when there is no proof it really is true- it depends on faith entirely and preaches that as their virtue- to believe without seeing etc as Jesus himself said to Thomas more or less according to the bible if I remember correctly. But it can obviously be a sore point when a religion which depends on preaching and convincing gets told its just stories to someone who is a believer. Also it’s quite possible even back then a lot of christians were convinced the only reason people /weren’t/ christian was that they didn’t know/didn’t know enough about it. I mean you still get that now oddly, in a world where christianity is what a third of the world practices and with readily available online information and where it seems like 50% of atheists were brought up christian. I can even see why christians can be confused! They believe they have access to the Truth with a capital T and to have someone look at it and reject it as so probably boggles their mind. But I could definitely see that confusion happening back then too when information wasn’t as easily gotten to.
I wonder what stories Coal got though? Was it just Jesus’ life and death? Did they teach some of the old Jewish stories back then to ‘would-be’ christians too?
I hope people don’t see Hedda as a representation of all Christians at this period (or today). Hedda in particular is a bit defensive of her faith because she has depended on it to get her through a life that hasn’t been easy or kind to her. It means a lot more to her than Coal or Ibrahim’s respective religions mean to them. Coal, Hedda, Ibrahim, and Arne (when he shows up) aren’t stand-ins for an entire culture or religion; they’re individual characters with their own personal preferences, interests, and motivations. However since they are the sole representatives in the story, I hope if there are any issues or problems with how certain things are depicted that someone will inform me. I want the story to be open and accessible to everyone.
Also I’m sure Coal enjoyed some of the more “action packed” stories of the Old Testament, but he knows who Jesus is and how he died, et cetera. He probably liked David and Goliath a lot.
I kind of hope Coal gives Ibrahim and Hedda a little perspective… Talking about your faith and defending it is all fine and well, but calling others’ beliefs stories and then getting upset when they do the same to you is a little hypocritical! 😛
Haha, Coal honestly just doesn’t care about any of this stuff. He’s just answering questions in order to make Ibrahim a little friendlier.
Having died and met his gods in person, I think Coal has a rather defensible opinion on the religions of others at this point.
Let’s see. A teenage Viking boy of probably noble birth has a choice between his mothers religion, a his fathers religion.
“Die I battle and go to Valhalla where you get to fight and drink all day” vs. “The meek shall inherit the earth”.
Umm. Yeah I’m guessing most teenage boys would pick the one with beer and swords.
Hahaha! Well most of the Viking world had beer and swords, regardless of what they believed in. But there is a bit more machismo associated with Valhalla, I guess, hahah.
Coal probably doesn’t need to think about it too much anymore, since he pretty much knows now that there’s some kind of afterlife. Ibrahim and Hedda are still running on blind faith, so to speak.
He didn’t think about it much even when he was alive, hahaha.
I love how nonchalant Coal is about the entire thing. I absolutely love him. 😀
He IS! He really doesn’t care and is only doing this cuz Loki suggested he should.
On the other hand, I don’t think Coal would ever be in a position to challenge the Trickster, and refuse what Loki politely asks. Even more if what Loki asks for is not something morally wrong.
I love the ‘Whats?” So much what here.
WHAT? 😛
Wut wut?